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Jul 28th 2006

cindy sheehan wasting away!

this photo is from day 22 of her two-month “fast.”

at least she’s fulfilling part of the law of the fast. i have no idea whether she’s hungry or not:

That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. (see matt 6:18)

reward thee openly = insurance money to buy real estate next to bushitler!

hmmm, on the other hand, let’s look at the doctrine again:

when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. (see matt 6:16)

oops. but she might have just been squinting from the sun or a bug. or maybe the thought of evil george bush.

18 Responses to “cindy sheehan wasting away!”

  1. LucyC

    This post has made my day, Travis! The picture, the story, topped with the verses is just rich! You and Doug really do find the best things for posting!

    Here’s something that is absolutely incredible:
    http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/8954.htm A medieval copy of the Book of Psalms was found in an Irish bog and it is 1,200 years old. It is said to be like an equivalent to the Dead Sea Scrolls that contained the book of Isaiah.

    But the timing of this find is incredible too. Read the article and see what I mean. And on top of that the book was turned to Psalms 83 which fits in perfectly with today’s current events.

    Well I certainly enjoyed your post! Cindy is lovely in pink.

  2. Steve

    Travis, Travis, Travis. You skipped over the most important counsel. Matthew 7:1-2

    “Judge not that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again”

    Again, how can you condemn Cindy Sheehan since you have obviously been affected by this stupid war as much as she has? No you have not been called to make any sacrifice. Bush and the Republicans are happy letting the disadvantaged in our society provide the blood, sweat, and tears all the while giving his rich buddies a tax break. Then you guys have the gall to rip on the woman who has lost her son to King George’s stupidity? That’s unconscionable! I mean really Travis, picking on a woman who has lost her son? That really is a Coultergeist. Well we must know that things are going badly in Iraq for you guys to have to try to introduce silly static like this.

    Actually you are affected by this war (or at least your children will be). Can someone say $130,000 per minute?

  3. tell you what? we can trade scriptures:

    Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. [leviticus 19:15]

    commandments to judge aside, i don’t know how you have concluded i’m picking on the untouchable cindy sheehan. in fact, i noted that her heavenly father has “rewarded her openly” with insurance money.

    cha-ching!

  4. John

    Wow, this was an immature post.

  5. Steve

    Since you matched my scripture, I’ll raise you one. How about the whole concept of not noticing the mote in your brother’s eye because you have a beam in your own. Honestly, John is right. This self-righteous tone of yours is really immature (Coulteresque -I mean really the insurance money? That’s beyond silly). You have not been in Cindy’s shoes. You have not lost a son. You do not disagree with a lying president who has cost this nation dearly. You are in no position to make any sort of judgment. The idea of you on a righteous throne is laughable. Again, you need to develop some critical thinking skills. I know that is difficult at BYU where you all get the cookie cutter education but it can be done.

    How about the $130,000 per mintue cha-ching that your kids will have to pay. That’s the real cha-ching!

  6. LucyC

    Gentlemen, may I jump in here?

    I’d like to quote FULLY from Matthew 7:1-5 if you don’t mind (I am using the NIV version):

    (Jesus speaking) “Do not judge or you too will be judged. For IN THE SAME WAY you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, FIRST take the plank out of your own eye, AND THEN YOU WILL SEE CLEARLY TO REMOVE the speck from your brother’s eye.

    Jesus clearly said we were allowed to judge and discern the action of others. But He said that we were to make sure we weren’t guilty of the same thing. (sawdust, plank, speck are all types of wood…meaning the same type of sin.)

    Travis, are you publically announcing to the world that you will be fasting and then letting people take your picture for the media so they can see you fasting? If you are, then shame on you! If you aren’t, then you have the right and in fact the responsibiity of being discerning.

    Cindy has chosen to align herself with Rev Jesse Jackson and Rev Al Sharpton in this fast. Certainly they should know the verses from Matt 6 that Travis referenced.

    People who undergo fasts to impress other people are not to be respected. Pity? Yes. Respect? No.

    A side note. Jesus used this passage to describe a hypocrite. In another post I talked about Noam Chomsky being a hypocrite. He falls into this category perfectly don’t you think? He criticizes wealth but it’s okay for him. He criticizes corporations but invests in them knowing that the more they succeed, the better off his portfolio is. He demonizes our military and Pentagon, but he uses his God-given talents to make our military stronger (to which I say praise God!) and then takes millions from them in payment (the American way). So using Jesus’ example here, he is constantly critical of our country’s specks and saw dust, when he himself has a few large planks and logs of his own to take care of.

    Okay, I’m being critical of the Left here, but I certainly have more than my own share of specks in my own eyes too.

  7. LucyC

    Whatever it costs, whatever it takes, Islamofascism must be defeated. Praise God we have the $130,000 per minute to spend on this fight.

  8. Steve

    Lucy,
    You are dead wrong here. Christ took upon the pains of the world which qualifies him to judge us. He recognizes that noone is perfect. This is why he was so concerned that we not judge one another. You and Travis don’t have a leg to stand on here. You have not been affected by this war as Cindy has been. You come across as silly when you try to criticize her (a la Coulter who said the 9/11 widows were actually happy their husbands had died).

    We’re really ridding the world of Islamofascism aren’t we? Speaking of fascism, I’d say we’ve moved in that direction with Bush and Cheney. Don’t question the state. Warantless wiretapping. etc. etc. etc. Again you are wrong. We have proven our ignorance and intolerance to the rest of the world. This has galvanized anti-US sentiment. If you don’t think it matters, read Fishman’s China Inc. You will see how drastically it affects us throughout the world. Again you are wrong.

  9. Again, you need to develop some critical thinking skills. I know that is difficult at BYU where you all get the cookie cutter education but it can be done.

    what do you mean “cookie cutter education?” are you bitter because you weren’t admitted?

    You have not been in Cindy’s shoes. You have not lost a son.

    therefore i can’t criticize her definition of a fast or her very public political activism. even though i went to BYU and had to take 22 hours of religion classes to graduate, i think i’m starting to understand your complex, new infallability doctrine.

    thanks for helping a mindless, unquestioning automaton like me understand life in the real world.

    You are in no position to make any sort of judgment.

    and bushitler and dumbsfeld are obviously in no position to command our military! let’s put cindy sheehan in as commander in chief. then we’ll really start to see things fall into line.

  10. Steve

    Actually Travis I was admitted to BYU and received a “Y” scholarship. Thank heavens I chose not to get a cookie cutter education; I have critical thinking skills unlike so many I see coming out of that place. Maybe I can loan some to you (or Napolean Dynamite).

    I didn’t say anything about infallibility except that you are not infallible and thus should not judge one so harshly (especially in this area). Bushitler and Dumbsfeld have proven they are in no position to lead our military. They got everything wrong and they lied to us Travis. Why can’t you just admit that lying is bad? It’s even worse when it costs human live and enslaves with debt.

  11. You are dead wrong here. Christ took upon the pains of the world which qualifies him to judge us. He recognizes that noone is perfect. This is why he was so concerned that we not judge one another.

    i don’t recall either of us condemning cindy to hell. we’re making a common, everyday judgment about a person’s actions in the public sphere. this is not “judging” someone in the sense that christ has reserved the right to judge our souls. if this “immature” post constitutes “judging” cindy sheehan in the eternal sense, then what about david letterman and jay leno and their monologues? are they guilty of judging the people they poke fun at?

  12. Thank heavens I chose not to get a cookie cutter education; I have critical thinking skills unlike so many I see coming out of that place.

    again, could you explain what you mean by “cookie cutter education?”

  13. LucyC

    Exactly, Travis! Jesus has the right to judge us NOT because He took on the pains of the world but because He is God and He created us! He was judging us even before Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Jesus never had to earn the right to judge us by taking on “the pains of the world!”

    And Travis you are exactly right when you say that we have the moral authority to judge and discern things in our lives. In fact we are commanded to be discerning in the Bible. Christians are told to be the salt and the light of the earth. We are supposed to expose sin. But as Travis correctly said, we should never pass judgement on anyone to condemning them to hell. That is God’s job, never ours. We can warn people of the dangers of hell but we can never condemn them there. That’s why that profanity “Go to hell” is so horrible. It is being cavalier about a very serious subject.

    Since Cindy lost a son in Iraq that makes her right? How about all the moms who lost their sons over there but support our President and support this war against Islamofascism? Which position is right? Whose moral authority is greater?

    Having lost a son (or daughter) doesn’t give one moral authority! It only means that they have suffered a great tragedy and deserves our sadness and pity. It does not mean we must capitulate to their political views!

    Cindy Sheehan is a very sad figure. Both because she lost her son and also because the Left is using her, and she doesn’t even realize it. When it no longer suits them to use her, they will dump her (as many are already starting to do).

    Steve, you make judgments every time you say anything negative about President Bush or Vice-President Cheney. Yet you never hear Doug or Travis or I condemning you for making those judgments or quoting Matthew 6 against your right to make those judgments.

  14. LucyC

    “cookie cutter education” – I think that means chef school.

  15. LucyC

    Steve, how can you say that I have not been personally affected by this war? You know nothing about me!

  16. Steve

    No July. You are wrong again. Had Jesus not taken the pains of the world upon him, he could have in no way judged us. He couldn’t empathize. There would be a way out for all of us. We could simply say, “You don’t know what I went through.” Again you are wrong here.

    Travis,

    I guess being judgemental (good or bad) depends on whether or not you deeply believe what you are saying. I can’t answer for Leno and Letterman. I don’t know how much of what they say they actually believe. You have demonstrated that you think Cindy is a publicity hound and is faking a fast (or something like that). If you didn’t believe that you wouldn’t defend it so vehemently. Are you saying that your jokes are in poor taste like many of those of Letterman and Leno? I would agree there. But then I think you are actually being judgmental, but that’s a judgment call. Sorry, nobody is perfect.

    A cookie cutter education means you all think alike. You can’t think for yourselves.

  17. Steve

    Sorry. Meant to say, “No Lucy…”

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