Yes, use them in their military.

Yes, use them in their military.

You got it. You must’ve known from the alias Lester Goozman. When nobody said anything, I thought I would play it out a while. I did try to not sound like myself. I even said I wasn’t a believer to see if I could throw you off. I think you’ve known all along.

Sorry for the threadjack. I have a grant due on Aug. 1. Stress makes me hypersensitive.
Carry on with the Cindy bashing. I won’t bother you.

I do love Doug’s Zidane vs. Castro though! My Cuban colleague and I had great laughs at that.

Steve

“so the definition of “fast” is: whenever someone says s/he is fasting, it’s a fast?”

Sure why not. Did God die and let you decide what a fast is? I missed that memo. If someone feels they are sacrificing something and they call it a fast, who am I to disagree.

Jared the subway guy’s diet would be a fast for me but I know that it would do me a lot of good. Lot of research out there showing caloric restriction slows down the aging process.

I haven’t taken the ludicrous position that Cindy Sheehan can’t be criticized. I’ve taken the position that your criticism (a la Coultergeist) is ludicrous. Cindy believes she is fasting and making a statement. Who are you to tell her that she isn’t especially since you’ve been affected as much as she has been by this war?

“how dare you say that! her brother was a transvestite and died of AIDS! she is therefore beyond criticism for her gender identity.”

Now you get the point! I still want to know if she’s working or walking. Now you see when I criticize someone you respect how it hits a nerve.

“but you’ve missed the key part: it’s still a MAJORITY”

You’ve missed the key part. It was a majority. Ain’t no more! Again let’s see what happens in the midterms. Maybe you guys should get Pete Coors to move to some State where Republicans are in trouble.

“mr. anan, you’ve certainly got me all tangled up in your logic.”

At least my arguments are logical. See above.

“a lot of french now think…”

The difference was Clinton had faulty intelligence. Bush created it. Watch the frontline special. Cheney pushed on George Tenet to produce the intelligence the administration wanted (i.e., the slam dunk case). Bush even knew the intelligence about the yellow cake was flawed before he gave his state of the union address. He knew all of the intelligence was flawed. He is a liar. Watch the frontline special. Stop removing your brain from your head and believing as only a right wing nut job does. Develop some critical thinking skills.

“but that’s why we’ve got to get saddam a good legal defense team and get him off the hook for genocide.”

If you don’t understand the significance of the Nuremberg trials and how they benefited the US (despite the risk) you really should study World History.

“then i’d wan to find out who lied, so i would be sure not to support them.”

Bush lied. I’ll get rid of anyone responsible for the leak, the yellow cake example, the aluminum centrifuge tubes, etc. etc. etc. Critical thinking comes in handy.

“on a related note, did you defend bill clinton his brief bout with perjury?”

No I didn’t. He should have been impeached. So should Bush for lying and costing the American people so much.

“nothing. let’s have fish smoothies for everyone!”

Great. You buy.

Doug:
“1. Check out Code Pink’s fasting guidelines. These are the feminist nuts behind this fast/rolling fast nonsense. Even by their standard’s Cindy Sheehan’s “fast” is a joke.”

Explain the logic. You give credibility to what Code Pink says and then you call them feminist nuts. Explain the incongruity.

“2. Has Bush accepted the Kyoto protocol? Uh, no.”

Uh where were you during the 2000 elections. He said he would support the Kyoto Protocol. Again, he lied.

“3. Michael Moore hates America and Americans. (The underlined blue text is a hyperlink. You can click on it and visit a page with additional information and evidence.)”

Right wing propaganda. You have to ignore this stuff. Stick to the facts to develop critical thinking skills.
“4. You’re obsession with “ED” is amusing.”

No actually, I find hypocritical junkies like Rush Limbaugh amusing.

“5. You present a compelling argument for mandatory military service and/or a requirement that any civilian who oversees military affairs must have served previously.”

That’s funny. I don’t remember doing that. But one could imagine that civilian leadership might consult one who has served instead of making decisions based on what Karl Rove’s brain says that day.

“6. Yes. Israel has been fighting Islamic terrorism for “a little over” 3,000 years. Quite a feat considering Mohammed was born around 570 AD, “a little under” 3,000 years ago.”

I don’t think you read above. The wikipedia entry was for terrorism not Islamic terrorism. You seem to have an fetish for Islam. Something you care to tell us. I was actually assuming that Moses came around before 1000 BC. I may be wrong, I’m not a scriptorian like you Doug. Anyway, you missed my point. They have been fighting terrorism for more than 3000 years.

I pointed out the Catholic example and you summarily dismissed it

noooo. i didn’t summarily dismiss it. i kindly provided an example to show how catholics fasting under the cindy sheehan method would sound ridiculous. rather than “summarily,” i would prefer to call what i did “quick” and “efficient.”

You are right. I gleefully watched the twin towers fall.

i didn’t say that. i said you have taken the ludicrous position that cindy sheehan cannot be criticized.

[coulter] may also be a transvestite (got some pretty bad adam’s apple going on there).

how dare you say that! her sister brother was a transvestite and died of AIDS! she may, therefore, never be criticized for her gender identity.

Winning the election by a few mere percentage points is hardly a solid majority

but you’ve missed the key part: it’s still a MAJORITY

mr. anan, you’ve certainly got me all tangled up in your logic. you’ve just claimed there are many definitions of “fast” (including, apparently, “eating more healthfully”) but while you expand that definition beyond recognition, you’re now narrowing the definition of “majority” so winning doesn’t even count anymore? because it wasn’t “solid” enough? what happened to second place is the first loser? you lost. you’ve lost several times in a row now.

I would say that the roughly 60% or so Americans who now say Iraq was a mistake is a solid majority.

a lot of french now think letting the US make the louisiana purchase was a mistake, too. mistakes suck. even george bush admitted something to the effect of the intelligence being wrong. you put the blame on him but (again returning to arguments that have long been worn out) clinton and congressional democrats made even stronger statements about iraq and saddam than some of the bush administration’s statements. everybody seems to be wrong now. it’s horrible.

but that’s why we’ve got to get saddam a good legal defense team and get him off the hook for genocide. maybe he can team up with ahmedinejad in iran and they can form a new, super-peaceful islamic state where there is no death, killing, or WMD. i can almost picture it now.

I don’t know how you can support liars. Again the scripture about lying and hell.

i don’t need a scripture to tell me that lying is bad. lying is bad.

does the scripture say “people who believe liars or give aid and comfort to liars will be thrust down to hell?” if so, that would make me a little more instructive for me. then i’d wan to find out who lied, so i would be sure not to support them.

on a related note, did you defend bill clinton during his brief bout with perjury?

and not to nitpick, but since we’re getting back into the nineties, how can you not remember who you voted for in 1996? were there a lot more candidates that year than there normally are?

What can be more patriotic than trying to keep America as the greatest nation on earth?

nothing. let’s have fish smoothies for everyone!

1. Check out Code Pink’s fasting guidelines. These are the feminist nuts behind this fast/rolling fast nonsense. Even by their standard’s Cindy Sheehan’s “fast” is a joke.

2. Has Bush accepted the Kyoto protocol? Uh, no.

3. Michael Moore hates America and Americans. (The underlined blue text is a hyperlink. You can click on it and visit a page with additional information and evidence.)

4. You’re obsession with “ED” is amusing.

5. You present a compelling argument for mandatory military service and/or a requirement that any civilian who oversees military affairs must have served previously.

6. Yes. Israel has been fighting Islamic terrorism for “a little over” 3,000 years. Quite a feat considering Mohammed was born around 570 AD, “a little under” 3,000 years ago.

Ryan:
“Well, the Iraq situation now is hard because the Islamic terrorists are playing a full court press…”

Really, and what were they doing before, half court press? I’ve already told you how our presence in the world has been neutered by the Iraq war and other bungles by Bush and Co. I can’t tell what you’re arguing with the wikipedia definition. Cut and run. I showed you a list of the biggest cut and runners ever. Those wonderful republicans who avoided their duty to serve in the armed forces. Maybe where you guys come from when you make a mistake you stick with it until it’s an even bigger mistake. Where I come from you fix the mistake.

You’re right about the Israelis. They are really showing us. Let’s see, how long have they been showing us (a little over 3000 years). They’ve been wiped off the map a few times too. They are really making progress right now aren’t they? Most believe it will have to come down to a prisoner exchange as happened last time. But go ahead and believe that they are really whipping up on those terrorists and that this time they (the terrorists) will sue for peace.