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Dec 5th 2005

Howard Dean: We Will Lose in Iraq

Saying the “idea that we’re going to win the war in Iraq is an idea which is just plain wrong,” Democratic National Chairman Howard Dean predicted today that the Democratic Party will come together on a proposal to withdraw National Guard and Reserve troops immediately, and all US forces within two years.

Yeeaaarrrrrrgggghhhhh…

Thank goodness this guy isn’t President. What a loser. Literally.

5 Responses to “Howard Dean: We Will Lose in Iraq”

  1. Hazim

    Yeah. Good thing. I’m just glad Bush has been such a good President. He really has done amazing things. For example, he took the prosperity and progress made during the Clinton years and turned it completely around.
    Let’s look at some of the highlights-

    1) Our deficit is at a record level: (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41149-2004Aug4.html),

    2) We have more poor people than we did five years ago:
    (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35175-2004Aug26.html),

    3) We have invaded and occupoed a country that posed no threat to us:
    (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6456.htm)

    I think my biggest beef is with item #3. These figures are well known; 2000 dead Americans, 15,000 more wounded, not to mention the tens of thousands of Iraqi dead. And yet guys like you, Doug and Travis, sit at home supporting this President. How? Why? Are you insane or just ignorant? Possibly both.

    Allow me to return to my sarcastic tone. Good things there are tough guys like you back here at home cheering the troops on, or they might get discourgaed. You can go to bed at night thinking you have somehow done your patriotic duty by supporting bad policies.

    I’ll give you guys one thing though. you’re certainly loyal. Most Americans have jumped off the sinking ship of neo conservativism (http://www.pollingreport.com/ BushJob.htm) . You’ll be unpleasantly surprised in 2008.

    And, if you’re so supportive of the troops presence in the Middle East, maybe you should grow a pair, march down to the recruiter’s office and sign up. I’m sure you thought about doing at some point, but couldn’t bring yourself to do it.

    -Hazim
    (Yes my name is different. It’s not typical a Utah Mormon name. It’s Middle Eastern. Got a problem with that?)

  2. doug

    For example, he took the prosperity and progress made during the Clinton years and turned it completely around.

    You mean the stock market bubble where the rich got richer? Or were you referring to the stunning success of companies such as Enron during Clinton’s watch?

    Bush took over an economy headed into recession (or already there, depending on your definition of “recession”). His tax cuts and low interest rates have helped the economy recover and enter a period of robust growth. Nevertheless, I wouldn’t credit/blame any president for overall economic performance…they usually don’t have that much control.

    -Hazim
    (Yes my name is different. It’s not typical a Utah Mormon name. It’s Middle Eastern. Got a problem with that?)

    When you’ve whittled that enormous chip down and can comfortably carry it on your shoulder without it impeding your ability to communicate, come back and we can talk…

  3. Ryan

    He took the prosperity and progress made during the Clinton years and turned it completely around.

    Would this be the prosperity that started to nose-dive before the 2000 election?

    We have more poor people than we did five years ago.

    So, are you aware that a President’s policies often take years to yield results? This decline again started in 2000.

    We have invaded and occupoed a country that posed no threat to us

    So these terrorists in Iraq pose no threat to us? Nor ever did? Nor ever will? Did you see Saddam’s picture in the news today? Are you aware that they had been firing missiles at American planes since the Gulf War? Or that he invaded Kuwait back in 1990? Or that he used Chemical weapons? Or that he had chemical weapons? How can you suppose that a moral and sovereign nation such as the United States is to sit on its hands while evil and conspiring men are hatching their evil little plans? While not a perfect analogy, many wanted to appease Hitler. Perhaps we should learn from history?

    Our deficit is at a record level.

    Seriously though, a true fault of the President’s perhaps. So Hazim, what do you do with extra money you have? Do you put it in a mattress or spend it? Invest it? Where do you work? Do you have a job? Who pays you? What do you think that your employer does with his extra money? What does the company do with its extra money? But I guess you’d probably just say “Tax the people! There is a solution!”

    Hazim, when Howard Dean says these kinds of things, it is not only “insane or just ignorant,” it is anti-american. Using the bad news the mass media is only too fond of as a politcal ploy at a time of war is despicable.

    Hazim, at least be glad that your fellow Middle Eastern Brothers and Sisters are able to establish a Democracy. Or does that illogically not seem like a good thing to you?

  4. Al

    Yes, it is a good thing that there are some people cheering on the troops, because some of those troops are my family! And yes, I did go down and try and enlist. Apparently they don’t take people who have ruptured disks and severe back problems. But did that stop me from trying?

    “Maybe you should grow a pair?” Really, I mean really… Do you honestly think there has been any kind of cowardice shown anywhere by our being ‘so supportive’ as you so condescendingly state. Tell you who has grown a pair, the Iraqi people. Or maybe you haven’t seen all the hype from the Iraqi people wanting to kill their former leader. Yea, they have grown several as no one in their right mind would have dared say anything negative before.

    So I not only support my family and my troops, I support those brave Iraqi people who stood up and decided they did want a better life and that life could happen through democracy.

    Now onto domestic policy, in which you are apparently an expert. As in the previous comments, Clinton, being the excellent president he was, led us right into that recession. But you probably knew that already and like so many upset democrats have to blame whatever you can get your hands on.

    An interesting point that hasn’t been addressed as much until recently in the news (mostly through the administration) is that the president was not the one man that led us into Iraq. He can’t do that as President. Congress has to declare war, then the Commander and Chief can lead the troops to war. How many dissenting votes were there in the decision to go to war? How many looked at the evidence given and said yes? So, don’t go and blame President Bush for everything you don’t like, because there are 435 reps. and 100 sen. that all have a piece of the political pie.

  5. [...] –Hazim (new spelling, same troll), Dec 2005 [link] That’s a pretty good argument there Travis. Get your facts straight, like Ann Coulter does. If you’re that afraid of the terrorists there Travis? I suggest you go purchase an underground bunker and move into it. [...]